Tuesday, November 4, 2008

The Iverson-Billups Trade

[Note: I started this at 4:30 and just finished it now. It has not been edited in any way, so please, excuse any grammatical errors, spelling errors or any factual mistakes about the game of basketball. Thank You.]


One of the negative aspects about being a college student is the fact that you have ridiculous priorities – essays, newspaper editing, meaningless reading etc. – that you’re forced to put ahead of more important things, like analyzing the recent Pistons-Nuggets trade involving Detroit’s Chauncey Billups and Denver’s Allen Iverson.

Talkhoops.net editor, Zach Harper, wrote this article on the day of the trade on why it was terrible for both sides, and before I really had a chance to think about it (I was editing news stories at the time I heard the news), I pretty much agreed. However, just days after the trade, I have a couple thoughts on why this works for both sides – which will be listed in no particular order. Let’s look at the Pistons’ side of the deal first.

1. Since Chauncey Billups joined the Pistons, ‘Detroit Basketball’ has been the same “go out and play tough on defense and team ball on offense.” We got six years of that, and those who consider themselves true basketball fans who love the game in its purest form had to love every minute of it, I know I did. However, with age becoming a factor (Rasheed Wallace) and the development of their youth (Jason Maxiell and Rodney Stuckey), it can be argued that Joe Dumars is doing the right thing in getting rid of Billups and bringing in Iverson. He brings a change of pace to a core of guys who know how to play together. Instead of not knowing who they’re going to go to at the end of games (Chauncey wore out the nickname “Mr. Bigshot after the 2004 Finals), they now have a proven scorer in Iverson who can close games out.

2. Allen Iverson is in a contract year, and this is important because A) Iverson is 33 and will need to prove that he’s still “The Answer” so he can cash in another huge payday and B) Iverson is being paid over $19 million this season and would he a huge cap relief at the end of this season considering that Billups is just in his second season of a four year contract worth about $46 million. Also, Wallace’s contract also expires at the end of this season, giving Dumars and the Pistons the option to completely make over this team with their young core without completely giving up on this season. Iverson is still the NBA’s toughest competitor and you know he’s going to do his job night in and night out. If he can take the collection of Theo Ratliff, Dikembe Mutombo, Aaron McKie, Eric Snow, Tyrone Hill, George Lynch, Tony Kukoc and Matt Geiger (yes, I did need to name the next eight leading scorers from that team – just for the effect – hell I’ll add in Rodney Buford too) to the NBA Finals, and take a game from a Lakers team who went into the Finals unblemished, it’s safe to say that this Pistons team with Iverson can definitely compete.

Why does this work for the Nuggets? Keep reading.

1. Chauncey Billups has been the leader for the most consistent team in the NBA over the last six years, this cannot be argued. Billups spent six years in Detroit, made six trips to the Eastern Conference Finals, made two trips to the NBA Finals and took the title in 2004 (and yes, I’m still bothered thinking about that season). Unless you’re giving up Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Lebron James, Chris Paul or Deron Williams (I’m only considering parameter players), your team doesn’t get worse by acquiring Billups. In fact, I think that Denver actually gets better with Billups in Iverson’s place. Denver is stacked with guys who can put points on the board (Carmello Anthony, Kenyon Martin, J.R. Smith and Linas Kleiza all averaged double figures last season), but they really haven’t had a guy who could control the pace of the game, especially in the half court set – which happens to be everything that has made Billups’ a great basketball player.

2. Let’s just take a moment and reflect on last year’s post season’s biggest joke: The Nuggets defense. In their four games against the Lakers, Luke Walton averaged over 13 points per game. Luke Walton! Not only that, but they gave up over 114 points per contest in that series. As the old homage goes, defense wins championships, which is why Billups has a ring and no one on the Nuggets does. Instead of two guys who don’t play any defense playing over 78 combined minutes per game, you’ll only have one guy out there who’s allergic to playing both ends of the floor and Billups, one of the leagues best defending point guards. Just his presence on the defensive end could make this a second place team instead of a third place team in the Pacific Northwest.

Who got the better end of the deal? In the short run, it’s definitely the Nuggets. There was a possibility of them not even making the playoffs in the Western Conference this season, but with the addition of Billups, I don’t think there’s anyway they don’t make the post season. Are they title contenders now? Absolutely not, but they are a much better basketball team and George Karl might actually get some sleep not having to worry about how to make the Nuggets a more defensive team with Iverson and Melo logging significant minutes.

However, in the long run, this could potentially be a huge deal for the Pistons considering in the summer of 2010 the likes of Lebron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh become free agents. Dumars will have ample amounts of cap space to lure in one of the big names, but again, you really can’t count out the Pistons this season. Iverson, Richard Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, and Sheed is still a great core, especially when Jason Maxiell, Jarvis Hayes and Rodney Stuckey on the bench. I like the trade for both teams.

Thought's on the trade yourself? Let me know!


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3 comments:

THE CEREBRAL BEAST said...

Ok ok homie. For the most I' in total agreement with you, which is SUPER boring. it leaves no room for debate. So I though I'd mention a few points. I want to give a shout out to Todd MacCulloch on that 2001 Philly Team. and I think the Kobe Killer, Raja Bell was on that squad too. Maybe. Id also like to point out that it was that intangible force that consumed the Celtics last year, carried the 76'ers to victory that first game of the NBA Finals. A combination of heart and determination. Now, the one thing I might disagree with you is on the short term/long term concept. I would say the Pistons will IMMEDIATELY see the impact of A.I. BUT that only depends on whether the starting five can and/or will adjust to Iverson's pace and style. If they do, you can expect to see them against my Celtics in May. Denver will benefit from Billups slowing the pace of the game down and making it a half court game but their defensive incapabilities will cause them to implode in the later rounds of the playoffs. Chauncey is a role player, not a LeBron James who can at times, carry an entire team. In addition, I see D.Wade and Bosh staying put considering their recent additions to their squad i.e. Jermaine with the Raptors and Beasley and Marion with the Heat. The LeBron sweepstakes is what we should look for. I see the Nets, Bulls, Knicks and Pistons in the hunt for the over hyped LeBron James. Get back at me Hideous.

imsohideous said...

"I would say the Pistons will IMMEDIATELY see the impact of A.I. BUT that only depends on whether the starting five can and/or will adjust to Iverson's pace and style."

There will be an immediate impact, I agree with that, but how positive will that impact be. The Pistons have grown accustomed to Chauncey's style, and I don't think it would be smart to change your whole philosophy just because you've acquired a 33 year old point/shooting guard (I still don't know what he is). It's going to be interesting to see how Iverson adjusts because he's always been in an uptempo style offense (even when he was at Georgetown, which is still weird to me). We've never seen Iverson consistently play in a half court set, and it COULD take him a while to adjust to this kind of game, I'm not saying it will, I'm just saying it could.

"Chauncey is a role player, not a LeBron James who can at times, carry an entire team."

I think this is where we completely disagree. If Chauncey is a role player, than he's the second greatest role player of all time (Robert Horry has to be first). He's not going to take over a game in the same way that a LeBron or a Kobe does, but I've seen plenty of games where a good point guard controlled games without scoring points (i.e. Steve Nash, John Stockton, Mateen Cleaves in the D-League lol, and Billups is definitely one of those point guards. I mean, look at what he was able to do against the Magic in the playoffs last season. Orlando averaged 104 points per game last season and only averaged about just over 95 points per. The significant drop in points per game wasn't just because the Pistons play great defense, but because they had a point guard who could control tempo and limit possessions. The Pistons have lived off of reducing the amount of possessions per game, and you can't do that without a point guard who can't control the game. He may not do it by getting buckets, but Billups has dominated games throughout his whole tenure as the Pistons' point guard.

"In addition, I see D.Wade and Bosh staying put considering their recent additions to their squad i.e. Jermaine with the Raptors and Beasley and Marion with the Heat. The LeBron sweepstakes is what we should look for."

I'm not sold on either Wade or Bosh staying in with their respective clubs, especially not Bosh. Jermane O'Neal has been nice early for them (I'm stunned at how well he's been playing), but the all mighty dollar sign rules all, and the Pistons are a bigger market and, if they get rid of Iverson and Sheed at the end of this season, I can see the Pistons making a major play on getting Bosh -- especially since the Piston's have a wealth of young guards and along with Richard Hamilton. They're going to need some help in the front court, especially a couple of years form now. How much longer can McDyess play? How much will Maxiell (who I love) progress from now until then, I really don't see him being more than a solid contributor off the bench on a good team. LeBron is pretty much off limits to any team that isn't in New York on in Los Angeles. Nike offered him $50 million to sign with a team in a bigger market when his contract is up. He has to be a fool to not sign with the Nets, Knicks or Clippers.

Anonymous said...

I dare you talk Blasphemous of the title Mr. Big Shot referring to Chauncey lol

I lived in Michigan from 1998-2006 so basicly from the lockout till now I’ve been a Pistons fan. That being said, I will always be thankful and respect what Billups has done for that franchise, and literally cherish some of the sports moments he has given me or been a part of.

I understand the dynamics of the trade and the rational behind it, but to me its nothing more than a push with the possibility of future goodness..insted of a straight out positive at the moment.


I really wanted Ivo to be a Piston back when one of the Barry kids messed up that ill fated trade and radiclicly changed the course of NBA history but now imo Iverson has 1 maybe 1 ½ years of being “himself” left, and puts us in a shaky position of having to try to re sign him, if the Pistons want.

I hate to say it but, the Celtics and the Cavs are better then us, and this move at best gets us back the the Conference finials, and dreams beyond that are just delusional and for the worst case scenario ….see Jason Kidd

Well not Jason Kidd but you know…..

As far as the future, are we just supposing future free agents will want to flock to Detroit???

I’m just gonna watch and hope……